Wikipedia Diskussion:Benutzernamen ändern/Problemfälle

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Incorrect information[Bearbeiten]

The message beside my request on this page currently says "Antragsteller en:User:MTC hat noch keinen globalen Account", which appears to mean "en:user:MTC has no global account yet". However, I now have a global account named MTC, so that information should be updated. - M132T003C 10:41, 31. Mai 2008 (CEST)

Annabell[Bearbeiten]

Nachgetragen im Antrag von Annabel: Der Benutzer ist Bureaucrat; Checkuser; Sysop in nl.wp und nl.wiktionary. -- Ukko 13:50, 18. Sep. 2008 (CEST)

Auch hier gilt: WP:SM. Vielen Dank. — Raymond Disk. Bew. 17:31, 18. Sep. 2008 (CEST) 

Future plans[Bearbeiten]

Are there any plans on resolving these conflicts? I've just become a steward so I'd very much like to merge all my accounts. --Erwin85 15:57, 28. Feb. 2009 (CET)

The account in request has 157 valid edits incl. file uploads. Far too much for an usurpation. I do not see a solution unless the user gives his OK or the Foundation adopts a general resolution for all projects. Sorry. — Raymond Disk. Bew. 16:45, 28. Feb. 2009 (CET)
OK, thanks for the info. --Erwin85 09:51, 1. Mär. 2009 (CET)

How about the minimal-edit-count cases? Some wikipedias do allow their usurpation, so it is really up to a local decision (note that the proposed Steward policy is just a fallback for cases where local policy does not exist). For example:

  • fi:WP:USURP sets the limit at "under five edits that been made over one year ago". The user can object within 14 days.
  • pl:WP:USURP sets three alternative limits: (1) max three edits, and no edits in 6 months; (2) max ten edits, and no edits in 1 year; (3) max thirty edits, and no edits in 2 years. The user can object within 7 days.

So both have a mechanism to usurp passive accounts, while still giving the user the choice of objecting. Are there any plans to implement a similar policy in de-wiki? --Jmkfi 10:22, 3. Mär. 2009 (CET)

I hope this can be resolved soon for the German Wikipedia. In my case it's 3 edits in August 2005 by someone inactive and unresponsive that bar me from completing unification, even though three other wikis had no problems merging accounts with similar minimal edits, after several attempts at contacting the owner and a waiting period of one month. -- MiG2 18:37, 8. Mär. 2009 (CET)
In my case (Tedder), I've been around ~4 years with ~13000 edits, and I'm an admin. de:Tedder has one edit. It's the only bar for unification for me. w:User:Tedder 08:46, 17. Jul. 2009 (CEST)
Looks like real Bureaucracy from down here :p But then, maybe we should be glad that thryr not bold enough fo "i dun care, lets fix this on the fly". :) --Kharon WP:WpDE 23:13, 20. Aug. 2009 (CEST)

It's been well over a year for me, two years even since my first attempts at login unification, and I'm wondering if this will ever be resolved for the german wiki? The person who registered my username here on de.wiki has not responded to attempts to contact him both through his user page, and by wiki admins relaying emails. His last edit[1] with his main account ("Mig" @en) was two years ago, his last edit with the account that's preventing me from completing SUL, MiG[2], was five years ago[3], and that involved making *two* minor edits and one change to his own user page, all within the space of one week.

My experience with other wikis has been that they have adopted policies of their own in regard to SUL (usually involving an official "we've received a request, do you object" type of email and a waiting period of one or several months), to such an extent that the german wiki is now the last stop for many people (cfr the 'Problemfälle' list) in login unification. I noticed Raymond mentioning "or the foundation adopting a general resolution for all projects" as a possible solution, are you (as I expect requests from admins to be better heard by the foundation than from the average user), actively taking steps in pursuing that general resolution? If not, would you mind having a look at fellow national wikis out there and adopting a policy of your own? Although there is of course a form of bias in my case, I wouldn't mind helping out in this regard - feel free to contact me if you can use assistance. -- MiG2 19:44, 30. Jul. 2010 (CEST)

I looked around, and found that several Wikipedias allow usurpation of passive accounts even if they have a few edits; the exact conditions vary. Examples:
  • sv:WP:USURP allows usurpation of usernames with 1–100 contributions, unless objected in 1 month
  • fi:WP:USURP allows usurpation of usernames "under five edits that been made over one year ago", unless objected in 2 weeks
  • fr:WP:USURP allows usurpation of "usernames with only a few or non-significant edits"
  • no:WP:USURP requires "weighty arguments" for usurping if the "user has a significant contribution"
  • pl:WP:USURP has three editcount/time limits
Clearly, it is possible to adopt a policy that allows such usurpations, and it would certainly make life easier for active contributors who wish to use their global account to contribute to de-wiki; having to log in with a different account in order to make a small contribution (e.g. fix a broken interwiki) is a nuisance. Would someone like to propose a suitable usurpation policy for de-wiki? (BTW, this is user Jmkfi writing – I won't log in and out again just for this comment.) --128.214.72.246 13:08, 26. Aug. 2010 (CEST)
Unfortunately it's now 2011 and nothing has happened yet. It's been three and a half years since SUL was generally introduced, and quite a few of us are still waiting for the .de wiki to adopt a policy similar to what appears to be all the other wikimedia foundation wikis participating in SUL. For me personally, it's been well over 3 years on this 'waiting list', and a little over 6 (!) years since someone created a .de account with my nick, made 3 minor edits and never returned. I'm worried that the 'Problemfälle' page is effectively a .de wiki dumping ground as no bureaucrat, steward or administrator seems to have posted here about this issue in over 2 years.
And it shouldn't even be much of an issue, no accounts have to be deleted or merged. The convention seems to be to just rename the old account (for example add a 2 at the end of its name), after a bureaucrat or steward contacts the user with the conflicting account name, and waits for either an OK or no response for a month (or 2, or 3, whichever amount of time they're comfortable with). Would you mind contacting Benutzer:MiG and finally sorting this? -- MiG2 11:01, 2. Sep. 2011 (CEST)
Unfortunately it's now 2012 and nothing has happened yet. It's been four and a half years since SUL was generally introduced, and quite a few of us are still waiting for the .de wiki to adopt a policy similar to what appears to be all the other wikimedia foundation wikis participating in SUL. For me personally, it's been well over 3 years on this 'waiting list', and a little over 6 (!) years since someone created a .de account with my nick, made 3 minor edits and never returned. I'm worried that the 'Problemfälle' page is effectively a .de wiki dumping ground as no bureaucrat, steward or administrator seems to have posted here about this issue in over 2 years.
And it shouldn't even be much of an issue, no accounts have to be deleted or merged. The convention seems to be to just rename the old account (for example add a 2 at the end of its name), after a bureaucrat or steward contacts the user with the conflicting account name, and waits for either an OK or no response for a month (or 2, or 3, whichever amount of time they're comfortable with). Would you mind contacting Benutzer:MiG and finally sorting this? -- 24.233.119.115 15:44, 23. Feb. 2012 (CET)
Interesting copypaste... Anyway, considering this page is named "problem cases" and not a flat out "denied" (or a "we've contacted said user and await his response, or lack thereof, for a good six months and then we'll make a definitive decision" for that matter), I'm interested to know if you, stewards of the german wikipedia, have made any headway with this? As for many of us this really is the last stop preventing SUL unification, I'm afraid we won't be going anywhere. -- MiG2 (Diskussion) 22:27, 7. Sep. 2012 (CEST)

Resolution suggestion[Bearbeiten]

SUL has been here for five years now, yet sadly there is no movement of any kind regarding overlapping usernames on the german wikipedia... First (and last!) edits on the account with my name occurred 8 years ago now, and it certainly appears that I'm not the only one in this situation. Considering the account with my global name on it has seen eight years of complete inactivity and said user has not responded to repeated attempts at contact, could you consider adopting a cut off period? And none of us waiting here want to delete another users edits, all we ask for is a rename of said account, for example adding a '2' at the end (or whichever else is appropriate), perhaps followed by a notification to said user that their login data have changed. Should they at some point in the future wish to login again, they can this way, and as a bonus us *active* users at least get to complete the SUL process after so much time. -- MiG2 (Diskussion) 13:55, 9. Sep. 2013 (CEST)