Benutzer Diskussion:Tuptan

Unbegründete Löschung von Textabschnitten

Hallo Tuptan. Deine Bearbeitung in Tingatinga-Malerei habe ich rückgängig gemacht, weil Du Textabschnitte aus dem Artikel entfernt und das nicht begründet hast. Benutze bitte unsere Spielwiese für Tests. War die Bearbeitung konstruktiv, fülle bitte beim nächsten Mal die Zusammenfassungszeile aussagekräftig aus. Wenn Du neu bei Wikipedia bi--Tuptan 08:38, 1. Nov. 2010 (CET)st, interessiert dich vielleicht auch diese Seite. Danke für Dein Verständnis. Viele Grüße, Spuki ^Séance 10:41, 28. Okt. 2010 (CEST)

Hello Spuki, my aim is to improve Wikipedia. Sorry I don´t speak German, but I understan well. The text attacks existing organisation without providing any references. I have posted my opinion to discussion. I asked for references. When I have not got any answer I thought it was ok to remove the text. Wikipedia´s rules say that removing articles which attacks living people without reference or proof is absolutely acceptable. Wikipedia is encyclopedia and not platform for emotional attacks. There is absolutely no proof that TACS connects Tinga Tinga to Lilanga. There is absolutely no proof for the claim, that TACS does not have right to its trademark. TACS as any other German company has right to change its trademark. Off course if the trademark is same as the term for the art style, problems and different opinions may arise. But it should be still on the level worth the encyclopedia - not emotional attacks. The only reference is to Alex Drummer but it is not established who Alex Drummer is. I would like to ask you, if we could first discuss the dispute and then move back the text after more references or proof is delivered. The criticism of TACS is ok, but the claims must be proofed and referenced to. --Tuptan 10:55, 28. Okt. 2010 (CEST)

Hi Tuptan. Mein englisch ist nicht besonders gut, aber da Du schreibst, dass Du deutsch verstehst, schreibe ich weiter in meiner Muttersprache… Vorlage:Smiley/Wartung/;) . Ja, ich habe gesehen, dass Du Deine Ansichten auf die Diskussionsseite geschrieben hattest. Ich bin aber der Meinung, dass Du noch einige Tage auf Antworten warten solltest, vielleicht eine Woche. Zusätzlich bitte ich Dich, dann bei einer erneuten Löschung der betreffenden Passagen die Zusammenfassungszeile auszufüllen, und sei es nur mit einem Verweis auf die Diskussionsseite. So kann diese Aktion nachvollzogen werden und wird dann nicht fälschlicherweise als Vandalismus angesehen. Gruß-- Spuki ^Séance 11:11, 28. Okt. 2010 (CEST)

Hello Spuki, ich versuche. Danke sehr fur information, ich habe nichts uber Zussammenfassungszeile gewissen. Ich habe mein freund gefragen das er meine version mit Verweis ubersetz. Dann werde ich ein neur artikel gemachen. So sorry, I tried in German. I find it puzzling that I myself should proof Makonde´s statements. I mean if I write on Wikipedia that Makonde has commercial interests to damage reputation of TACS, will you ask him to proof the opposite. The contributor of text must provide references not the readers, do you agree? Also, what the "information" about commercial interest of TACS has to do with the encyclopedic nature of Wikipedia? TACS has commercial interesets off course.

The text is unclear for me. Please, help me what shall I proof. Shall I proof that the TACS has no comercial interests or shall I prove that TACS does not connect Lilanga with Tingatinga? Or shall I proof there is really a connection between two art styles? Or shall I proof TACS does not link Tinga Tinga with Lilanga? Or shall I proof that TACS is linking Tinga Tinga with Lilanga for non commercial purposes? Or shall I proof that TACS never connected Lilanga art with TInga TInga art? Help me to see what are the disputed facts. In fact what I see is just emotional and desperate attack on TACS where the facts are not att all important for readers who want to learn more about the Tinga Tinga art style. But maybe you see something else. Help me to see the disputed facts, please. --Tuptan 12:31, 28. Okt. 2010 (CEST)

Ignoring critisicm of existing organisation without references for one week

I don´t understand German but it seems I am blocked? Please explain why my contibution is not accepted and must be reviewed. Furthur my referemced information in the discussion was ignored for more than one week. The article claims that TACS wrongfully links Tinga Tinga with Lilanga and Traditional wall paintings. It is furture stated that TACS knowingly falsificates history in order to sell mass produced paintings. The claims are not referenced except to Alex Drummer whose identity is not established. Therefore it is ungrounded accustation of existing organisation. Without references which would proof the point of the critisicm, the article shoudl be removed by Wikipedia according to its own rules.

--Tuptan 08:38, 1. Nov. 2010 (CET)

Spurte, I have tried for 3 weeks to contribute to the section about Tinga Tinga art. look here: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tingatinga-Malerei&stable=0&shownotice=1 Please couldn´t you help me? It does not show. Also I would like to ask about your opinion. Should be Wikipedia platform for accusations or for facts? As you see the article about Tinga Tinga Cooperative, Makonde accuses me as manager of TACS that I changed history in order to sell mass produced paintings. I accept criticism, that is ok, but not without proofs and references. Certainly not on Encyclopedia. Pease try to look at it closely, I know you have a lot of more important things.

--Tuptan 17:57, 16. Nov. 2010 (CET)